[ExI] Religious Idiocy Triumphs Over Science Yet Again

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Tue Dec 15 07:20:13 UTC 2015


On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Mike Dougherty <msd001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As for the "illusion" ... prove that you have ever had an experience that
> wasn't an illusion.
>
Fair enough.  I meant "assuming consensus reality, that does not edit its
past, in the normal sense that most of us experience for the majority of
our lives".  From that perspective, if you think you encounter X but
subsequent evidence suggests that X never existed, then it may have been
that X was an illusion.  For example, if you think you see a giant lake
near the horizon on the desert but when you get to where the lake supposed
is you only see more sand, that may have been the specific type of illusion
known as a "mirage".

> Abstinence from drugs is similar to abstinence from sex. You can be an
> expert on the reports of others,  but you have no authority to speak on the
> subjective without actual context.
>
I have experience with tripping, just not tripping induced by drugs.  I
have experience with the mental illusions I describe, and I see the same in
what those on drugs claim to have experienced.
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