[ExI] Zombie glutamate

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at canonizer.com
Sat Feb 21 14:33:03 UTC 2015

Hi John,

That inability to test for or prove/falsify your claim is what makes it 
useless philosophies of men.  The way you progress from mere philosophy 
to true theoreticial physical science, is provide a way to for the 
experimentalist to prove/falsify your claims to everyone, forcing 
everyone into the same scientific consensus camp.

You obviously don't yet understand the theoretical physical science the 
"Detecting Qualia" paper is describing.


*Shawn Colvin sings the popular song “Never Saw Blue Like That” (see 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sptmDFuzpTA). *

Currently you are a new blue zombie.  You can sing about it, but you 
don't yet know what it is qualitatively like.

There is something that is responsible for what she is signing about.  
The paper shows how to overcome the quale interpretation problem so you 
can experimentally discover and detect what that is. The next step is to 
then reproduce that in your mind, as described in the paper, so you will 
no longer be a new blue zombie.  When that is done, how will that not 
prove, what you claim can't be proven?

Brent Allsop

On 2/20/2015 9:52 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Stathis Papaioannou 
> <stathisp at gmail.com <mailto:stathisp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > If the replacement part perfectly copies the observable I/O behaviour of the
>     original part, then consciousness will necessarily also be copied.
>      [...] consciousness is a necessary side-effect of behaviour
> I think that's true, I'd bet my life that's true, but I'll never be 
> able to prove it and neither can you.
>  John K Clark
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