[ExI] Open migration/was Re: Repudiating the national debt

Dan TheBookMan danust2012 at gmail.com
Wed May 18 22:26:21 UTC 2016

On May 18, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > ### Well, yeah, but it's much easier to make your own country flourish first,
>> > and in fact you pretty much have to make it flourish if you ever want to have
>> > the resources you need to fix the universe.
>> Not at all. One can work in smaller communities. To believe, for instance, in the US example, that somehow 230 plus million people is a magic number seems arbitrary, an accident of history. Also, an immediate way to improve everyone's lives would be simple to open the borders -- allow free migration across the borders. Then the boost in productivity would, by most estimates be a more than doubling of the world's standard of living.
> ### Yes, by all means, you do need to make your country great, because in sick countries smaller communities are devoured by their neighbors.

I'm not sure what that means. 

> Open immigration of low-IQ and hostile people would dramatically lower our standard of living. Also, proximity + diversity = war.

Note that you added hostile. Are most people hostile? Are most immigrants? Isn't it note that anti-foreign bias can be a driver here -- by being hostile to newcomers?

Also, low-IQ folks would also be much more productive in the West than in their native lands. The typical hypothetical of the <fill in the blank> moving to a Western city and becoming a cab driver and increasing their real income a ten-fold might hint at this. The actual numbers seem to show it's the case.


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