William Flynn Wallace
foozler83 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 9 21:26:58 UTC 2016
So what would you propose to stop heart attacks for the majority of
the population that have a poor diet and don't exercise?
Tell them to have a complete lifestyle change? As if they would
listen. Most of the time doctors can't even get their patients to take
The answer according to some, is to have a nanny state. For ex., warning
labels may be required on Big Macs. But if people are going to be
stubborn, continue smoking, drinking too much, eating poorly, watching too
much TV (lack of exercise) then they will have to pay the price for their
shortsightedness. Or will they? What if we put things in the water that
they are nearly forced to use?
Quick question for libertarians: is fluoridating the water a nanny state
solution, to be resisted? Will we put anti-obesity pills, once developed,
into the water? How much forced medication is too much?
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Dylan Distasio <interzone at gmail.com> wrote:
> While I'm not a statin evangelist or even completely sold on the
> cholesterol hypothesis in terms of cardiovascular disease, there is a large
> component of cholesterol production and makeup that is genetic. While
> exercise can certainly help raising the HDL fraction, diet has relatively
> little impact on overall cholesterol levels in most cases.
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:42 PM, William Flynn Wallace <
>> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And London cardiologist Dr Assem Malhotra said: "There are serious
>>> question marks about the reliability of industry-sponsored studies on the
>>> side effects of statins, and essentially that's what this review is.
>>> "And a lot of the scientists involved in the original studies were
>>> involved in this review. It is not an independent review."
>>> This is a quote from the BBC article that Bill K sent to me. It
>>> confirms what I think: you can't trust industry, which is making billions
>>> from the drugs, to do unquestioned research.
>> Yes, I'm extremely skeptical of claims that a man-made drug is safe and
>> effective for a problem that is basically due to poor diet and lack of
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