[ExI] statins

Jason Resch jasonresch at gmail.com
Sat Sep 10 06:57:47 UTC 2016

Another way of measuring their effect (or the effect of any drug) is
"Number Needed to Treat" ( detailed in this talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jPQjjsBbIc ). For Statins it is about 300.
That is, 300 people need to be put on Statins for every 1 heart attack,
stroke, etc. prevented. That's 299 people needlessly suffering whatever
side effects the drug may have for each person helped.


On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:46 PM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> So how about a vote?  Go with the majority?
> What's the alternative? Leave?
>   You did not mention fluorine.
> The evidence in favor is weak. I don't think it belongs in municipal water
> supplies.
> Here's one view of the future:  vaccines will be enhanced to cover more
>> illnesses.  Strains of beneficial bacteria or even viruses will be
>> administered by pediatricians at appropriate times just like vaccines and
>> probably mandatory for public schools.  Skeptics will pull their kids out
>> and so we will have, like India, an Untouchable class who have the wrong
>> microbiome, with shouts of 'unclean, unclean!'.  And generic Cialis will be
>> covered by Medicare.
>> God only knows what will be in our water.
>> ​​
>> Bottom line:  it will become harder and harder to be a practicing
>> libertarian.  The theme will be 'The greatest good for the greatest
>> number'.  (which probably quotes someone - I dunno)
> I'm all in favor of innovation but personal freedom has to have
> precedence. Those who want the latest and greatest additives in their water
> are free to have them, but they're not free to compel those who don't want
> them to have them. I mean, I can drink bottled water to avoid fluorine,
> obviously.
> I'm not sure whenever/wherever it's been easy to be a practicing
> libertarian. The trend may be toward authoritarianism but I'd like to think
> that some day there'll be another Enlightment and we can move past that.
> -Dave
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