[ExI] Quantum consciousness, quantum mysticism, and transhumanist engineering

[William Flynn Wallace]

Stathis wrote: The studies try to find a correlation between awareness or
awareness and patterns in the brain. They do not demonstrate consciousness.

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Is there a difference between awareness and consciousness?  I would equate
them.  bill w

​How on ​earth are they ever going to do that unless they first make the
assumption that there is a link between behavior and consciousness?


​John K Clark​

You poke someone who is asleep and get no behavior. You poke them when
awake and they might poke you back.  Clear link between behavior and
consciousness/awareness/ alertness/pick your term.  You don't need
assumptions when you have clear correlations between stages of
consciousness and behavior.

bill w

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 at 10:23 am, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And there are no scientific facts about consciousness,   John wrote
>>
>> --
>> It seems to me that quite a few EEG type studies have been done trying to
>> locate the center of consciousness.
>>
>> There are studies of subliminal perception also, which involve
>> influencing the person while bypassing consciousness.
>>
>> Are these not scientific?  I do acknowledge that there are tons of junk
>> around about this subject, mostly from philosophers.
>>
>
> The studies try to find a correlation between awareness or awareness and
> patterns in the brain. They do not demonstrate consciousness. This is why
> for a long time scientists thought consciousness was bullshit - you
> couldn't study it scientifically.
>
>> --
> Stathis Papaioannou
>
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