[ExI] Cryonics Alexandre Erler and bad philosophy

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Fri Dec 1 11:57:11 UTC 2017


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Max More <max at maxmore.com> wrote:


>  On a related matter, it's clear to me that there is a major divide here
> between those who find it essential to be revived in their biological
> bodies and those who believe they will survive just as well in software
> emulations. I'm in the latter camp but, in my position, must take fully
> into account a great many people in the first camp.
>

### Indeed, this seems to be the heart of the issue here. People like you,
John and I have no philosophical problems with uploading but there is a
substantial number of biology-oriented cryonicists who do, and this leads
to different attitudes about preservation techniques. As the perennial
identity thread on our list shows, it may be very difficult to achieve
agreement between the two camps.

Luckily, these philosophical quibbles need not cause a split in the
cryonics community - simple vitrification and ASC (which is also a form of
vitrification) can be integrated in the same suspension workflow, with
relatively minor increase in cost. We uploaders could share the dewars with
the biologicals and let the godlike AIs of the future handle the details.

If you offer an ASC option as a rider on my contract, even at a higher
cost, I'll sign up. Consider doing a poll online and in the Cryonics
magazine to find how many cryonicists would follow my example.

Rafal
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