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[William Flynn Wallace]

Dan wrote:

also, libertarianism as a form of radical politics isn't about seizing
power. It's about dismantling power.
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Funny how everybody thinks that they can define libertarianism for
everyone.  Me, I don't need any purists to define it for me.

Having a police department, for instance, is a concession to authority
which I gladly concede:  ditto fire, streets, military, etc. and the tax
people to gather money to fund such things.  Enormously convenient.  Has
nothing to do with liberty.  Or it has to do with liberty gladly given up
to those who can do those things a lot better than I can by myself.  Makes
me a socialist, right?  Right.

bill w

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:33 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017  Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ​> ​
>> Slaveholding George Washington
>>
>
> ​All rich men in Virginia were slaveholders at the time, and as Virginia
> was largest and richest state the first commander and chief was almost
> certainly going to be a slaveholder. ​And unlike Jefferson at least
> Washington freed his slaves when he died. Hey, better late than never.
>
>
>> ​>​
>> wasn't a radical.
>>
>
> ​The British ​
> ​though otherwise. If Washington has lost the war he would have been
> hanged. ​
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> Had history been slightly different
>>
>
> ​George Washington would ​have been the first king of the USA, instead
> after 8 years he chose to give up power and go home. That is very rare.
>
>
> ​> ​
>> Also, libertarianism as a form of radical politics isn't about seizing
>> power.
>>
>
> ​Then ​
> libertarianism
> ​ is a trivial movement that should be of no interest to a serious minded
> individual.
>
> ​> ​
>> It always is funny in a way that makes me want to puke how
>> self-proclaimed libertarians don't know this.
>>
>
> ​I've always been a ​
> libertarian
> ​ but at one time I was a radical libertarian like you, and I thought
> government should go away entirely, but over the years I've come to realize
> like it or not government simply isn't going away this side of the
> singularity, so I just must learn to live with it. ​Yes if we were starting
> from scratch we could do better, but we're not starting from scratch.
>
>  John K Clark
>
>
>
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