[ExI] housing again, was RE: sex again

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Sat Dec 14 18:41:33 UTC 2019


Depends on the woman.  I am immediately reminded of Judy's apartment from
Zootopia - a fairly minimalist set of furnishings, to support a single
person.  (Modulo what all the "people" in Zootopia are, but the concept
mirrors over to real life well enough.)  Notably, the furnishings would not
have differed to support a male individual.

See
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/50/72/0f5072667904efa1e778cdc2e0b722bf.jpg
for
one design, though I think the actual apartment in the movie was even more
austere.  On this floorplan I see a bed, a desk, a TV for entertainment,
food prep & storage, clothing storage, and presumably the inner door leads
to a basic washroom with at least a toilet and sink, likely a small shower
too.  (Though this also has running water, electricity, and a no-dirt
floor.)  Occasional services such as laundry are presumably provided
elsewhere in or near the apartment building on a community basis (such as a
laundromat).

Certainly the food prep and storage area, at least, is dramatically smaller
than would have been needed back in the 1700s.  Back then, such needs did
not scale down to a single person very well, and a typical single person
accommodation would have been an entire cabin.  Of course, back then
high-rise apartment buildings did not exist either.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:14 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Needs?  Whose needs?  Just answer this question:
>
> What are the things that a house (we are ignoring the outside, the yard,
> right?) has to have for a women to move into it.  We can omit those things
> that our forefathers (foremothers?) would have said, like running water and
> electricity and a no-dirt floor.  bill w
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:40 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:14 AM
>> To: 'ExI chat list' <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> Cc: 'BillK' <pharos at gmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [ExI] sex again
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of
>> BillK via extropy-chat
>> Subject: Re: [ExI] sex again
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 15:43, spike jones via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Move to the Bay Area?  This place is already the Star Wars Bar when it
>> comes to diversity.  Others will already be comfortable with whatever you
>> want to be.
>> >
>>
>> Surely you jest?  At those prices?
>> <
>> https://www.newser.com/story/283270/to-afford-the-bay-area-he-lived-in-32-s
>> quare-feet.html
>> <https://www.newser.com/story/283270/to-afford-the-bay-area-he-lived-in-32-square-feet.html>
>> >
>>
>>
>> BillK
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >...BillK, I will certainly admit life in the fast lane has is
>> compromises.
>> It was a big step down in standard of living for my bride and me when we
>> came to the Bay in 1989.  Our living arrangements went from this:
>>
>> https://dianaoverbey.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/highclerecastle.jpg
>>
>> to this:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-041
>> 3-1.jpg?w=467
>> <https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-0413-1.jpg?w=467>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The second link didn't come thru before.  Trying again:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-041
>> 3-1.jpg?w=467
>> <https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-0413-1.jpg?w=467>
>>
>>
>> I have been toying with an idea I wanted to bounce offa you.
>>
>> Things are very different now than when I started engineering.  At
>> Lockheeed
>> often a ranking engineer would have his desk, a drawing board, a flat file
>> (ja I know you went to google because you never saw one of those), a
>> typewriter desk, filing cabinets, a safe (for classified documents) a
>> cabinet for drafting tools, perhaps several other pieces of equipment
>> modern
>> engineers couldn't even name and had never seen.
>>
>> In my last assignment at that company, I inherited the office of Jerry
>> Wozniak, who retired a multimillionaire for reasons having little to do
>> with
>> this job there but you likely already know by his name.  We got rid of
>> most
>> of the outdated equipment in there and moved more guys in.  There were
>> four
>> engineers in that office and we still had pleeeeennnty of room.  We even
>> kept Jerry's outdated filing cabinet just because it had his name on it.
>> Hell of a nice guy he was.  Never a bit crowded in that office with the
>> four
>> engineers desks and some of Jerry's old stuff.
>>
>> Reason: that list of stuff from Jerry Wozniak's era was all made obsolete
>> by
>> Jerry's son's invention.
>>
>> OK then, let's think it over and see if our housing needs were reduced by
>> technology.  I would argue that they are.
>>
>> Before I present my notions, I will offer a chance for you to think it
>> over
>> and post ideas.
>>
>> spike
>>
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