[ExI] housing again, was RE: sex again

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 14 21:10:06 UTC 2019


On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 2:53 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] housing again, was RE: sex again
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> >…To take the example of that apartment, no dishwasher - just the sink -
> and a single professional female adult moved in quite readily, not
> stretching disbelief in the slightest.  Likewise, very few electric kitchen
> gadgets: we see her using a microwave oven, and that's it.  She does not
> demonstrate advanced cooking skills; if she wants a cake, she would buy
> one, not make it…
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>  I don't know if this is in keeping with the original question.
> Outsourcing was done since Tarzan hired Cheetah to go get bananas.
> Outsourcing does not reflect the results of technology.
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> Exactly what I was thinking: so much can be outsourced, including food,
> nearly all food.  A small refrigerator, a toaster for the pop-tarts,
> microwave for nearly everything else.  That doesn’t take much space.
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>  This would be OK for me if I were 95 and had lost every single one of my
> taste buds and all of my nose receptors.
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> Lawn maintenance can all be outsourced, and should be.
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> Laundry can be outsourced or certainly minimized.
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> Car maintenance, out.  Remember all the tools and stuff we used to need to
> keep our cars running, never mind the real junkyard dogs many of us drove
> in our misspent youth: even new cars needed attention and tweaking.  Now
> they don’t.
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> Do you need a TV?  I don’t: the computer gets you exactly what you want
> and need with actual control.
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>  The computer doesn't really compete with a big TV.
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> Do you need a stereo system?  Those little Bluetooth speakers are
> remarkably competent and compact.
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>  Yeah if you don't care about getting any bass.  Highly irregular
> response dropping off below 200 cps from little speakers (Bose is the best
> of the small, I found)  No one fond of high fidelity would accept that.
> You might as well use earbuds.
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> Do you need a printer?  Why?  Filing cabinet?  Why?  Scan your documents
> on your flatbed and keep them forever where you can find them.
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> Do you need a bookshelf?  Indeed?  Out.
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>  I will admit that if you just don't like books tech provides Kindle
> etc.  Only my bathroom doesn't have book shelves despite my giving away
> hundreds of books in the last couple of years.  And Kindle, aside from the
> search function, has far few features than a book.
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> Do you need to entertain and have big parties at your house?  Can’t you do
> your social life online like regular people do now, and we socially awkward
> types have already done for as long as it became practical.  Then once in a
> while if you really need to have a party, you can do it at some public
> venue, such as Berkeley or preferably somewhere less scary than that.
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>  Again - no reflection of the effect of tech here.
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> Garages: lotta space under a roof, ja?  On the west side of the Bay, area
> under a roof is worth four digits per square foot.  Park it in the street,
> make an apartment out of all that half a million bucks worth of
> climate-controlled floor.
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>  ditto
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> Keep in mind: plenty of moderns get some really exciting jobs.  Especially
> the singles spend more time at the office than at home, which explains why
> offices keep getting nicer and nicer, but homes don’t.
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> We have developed plenty of technologies which can keep us comfortable in
> a lot less floor area than we used to need.
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>  Yeah, if you like being cooped up like a resident of Tokyo.  I do not
> regard reducing space as any kind of improvement whatever.  Maybe for the
> plebes.  I shudder at having to live like that.  It reminds me of having to
> go to a nursing home.  I may not do that even if I have to.  bill w
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> spike
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