[ExI] The Thirty Meter Telescope is now officially dead

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 26 21:00:38 UTC 2019


Adrian wrote - In other words, mere blind opposition of opposing views will
not work in some cases.  This is one of them.
I don't think that will ever work.  People do flip to an entirely different
view, but this is really rare, especially if the views are strong enough to
support going to a demonstration or protest.  They need to be moved little
by little (like Skinner's successive approximations technique)
bill w

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 12:27 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:34 AM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:54 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t understand why you are completely unwilling to take people’s
>>> feelings into account. Failing to do that is a major component of the
>>> resistance to science. Pure logic does not get the majority of people to
>>> change their opinion, personal emotional appeals do that.
>>>
>>> The failure of yourself and people like you to understand the emotions
>>> at play are a HUGE part of anti-science sentiment.
>>>
>>
>> ### I sure understand their emotions and I despise those emotions too.
>>
>> There is no reason why understanding evil should lead to acceptance of
>> evil, should it?
>>
>
> Merely opposing evil will not get evil people to stop their ways.  If
> there are enough of them with enough power, then in order to accomplish
> good, one must plan for how to convert them to good.  Understanding their
> evil is necessary to get them to convert.
>
> In other words, mere blind opposition of opposing views will not work in
> some cases.  This is one of them.
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