[ExI] ai emotions

[Brent Allsop]

Once the emerging expert consensus
<https://canonizer.com/topic/81-Mind-Experts/1> “Representational Qualia
Theory <https://canonizer.com/topic/88-Representational-Qualia/6>”
information becomes far more understood and accepted by the masses.
  Intelligent people, at least will understand how we can objectively know
the difference between these 3 robots that are functionally the same
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YnTMoU2LKER78bjVJsGkxMsSwvhpPBJZvp9e2oJX9GA/edit?usp=sharing>,
but qualitatively and emotionally very different.  Abstract AIs deserve no
compassion, no matter how they behave.

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:59 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I told Spike about Ted Chiang's new collection of stories and maybe some
> of you read his stuff.  A long, 110 page story is about software and AIs as
> pets and more -book is Exhalation.   bill w
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 2:41 PM Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It goes back farther than that:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxo_Jr.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NPQ8mfKU0
>>
>> And that's not even the beginning.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 3:08 PM Darin Sunley <dsunley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It goes back farther than that.
>>>
>>> The IKEA ad with the lamp, having been thrown out, sitting on the curb
>>> in the rain, camera angle carefully chosen to make it look like it's
>>> staring forlornly up through the window to its former place in the warm
>>> happy room where its replacement now shines, to increasingly despondent
>>> music.
>>>
>>> Then the spokesman steps into the shot and chides the audience. "Some of
>>> you are feeling sorry for this lamp. That's because you are crazy. It has
>>> no feelings, and the new one is much better."
>>>
>>> People can be made to anthropomorphize anything, and the more complex
>>> its behaviour, the easier it is.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:06 AM William Flynn Wallace <
>>> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you watch TV, you may have seen the commercial with the athletic
>>>> robot, who hits golf balls, etc., then stops outside a bar and watches the
>>>> people drink, and then slumps as if to say 'that's what I really want -
>>>> companionship'.
>>>>
>>>> If you have seen it, did you feel anything for the robot at all?  A bit
>>>> of pity, perhaps?
>>>>
>>>> Clearly that was intended.  Was it successful?
>>>>
>>>> This is only the very beginning of programming the AIs to elicit
>>>> responses in us.
>>>>
>>>> bill w
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