[ExI] ccp struggles

spike at rainier66.com spike at rainier66.com
Thu Apr 16 15:41:56 UTC 2020



From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of John Clark via extropy-chat
Subject: Re: [ExI] ccp struggles



On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:33 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:


>>… The second amendment is about the militia, not about defending homes, farms, hunting, crime, any of that.


>…Then the second amendment isn't about much…


On the contrary.  It is because we have second amendment rights that we still have rights.


>… The only real militias are the National Guard and the Navy militia…


On the contrary.  Read the legal definition of militia, 10US code 246, b.2. unorganized militia.  If you dispute the US legal code, your disagreement isn’t with me, it is with the legal system of the US.


10 U.S. Code § 246.Militia: composition and classes

*          <https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246#tab_default_1> U.S. Code

*          <https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246#tab_default_2> Notes

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The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in  <https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/32/313> section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b)The classes of the militia are—


the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and


the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.



>… the others are just a gaggle of white supremacist…


John are you resorting to racism now?  The others are every race in the USA between the ages of 17 and 45.


>…nut jobs…


John you are the one arguing we don’t need a second amendment, not those you label as nut jobs.


>…marching around…


The militias do not march.


>…and pretending to be soldiers…


Nor do they pretend to be soldiers.


>…just because some jerkwater politician writes a law that says every male between 17 and 45 is a member of a militia does not make that a reality…


That makes it the law.  If you disagree with it, an option is to run for office and work to change the law.  Until then, it is the law.


John I do urge to stick the topics on which you have actual demonstrated knowledge.




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