[ExI] prisons

[William Flynn Wallace]

In the case of murder, in most cases there is nothing rational to be done.
Unless we are talking about gang murders, most murders are within family.
OK, so put them in jail.  Let them out and see what happens.  Extremely low
recividism rate for that type of murder.  You accomplish nothing by a
prison term. They knew it was wrong.  They will never do it again.  Why pay
$30K a year to keep them in prison when nothing good comes out of it?
Yeah, they get away with it, and that might encourage others to do the
same, expecting no punishment.  We have here is MS a lot of killings in
prison whether from gangs or who knows.  What to do with them?

For rapists:  nonremovable patches of female hormones, taking the sex drive
down to zero - chemical castration.

For burglars:  State jobs while they learn a trade. On parole, with jail if
they break it.  Some money to go to those burgled.  Ankle bracelets for GPS

For white collar crime,like losing trillions of dollars :  the stocks, so
people can come by and spit on them.  Certainly no comfy prison. PUt them
in with the black gangs and see how the word spreads about white collar
crime.  This is certainly the class of crime that needs the most attention.

bill w

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:27 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:57 AM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. And let’s consider abolishing prisons too:
>>
>> https://c4ss.org/content/30340
>>
>
> That link kept teasing but didn't actually answer the question, "And
> replace them with what?"  So, if you're promoting that point of view, I ask
> that question of you.
>
> Let us say there is an individual who routinely burgles houses for a
> living.  What is to be done to make said individual stop doing this?  The
> court and penal system is presented as a preferred alternative to
> aggrieved people lynching and executing a suspected or alleged burglar.
>
> How shall we deter murder - especially deliberate assassination by private
> individuals accountable to no one or almost no one?
>
> What is to be done about rapists?
>
> And that's just some of the basic types of crime.  Drugs might be
> decriminalized, hate crimes might result in counseling (or lead to an
> assessment of mental disorders), but these measures by themselves are a far
> cry from abolishing all prisons.
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