[ExI] prisons

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 09:13:18 UTC 2020

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:50 PM Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:11 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:58 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote
>>> ### I actually agree with you that keeping serial burglars in prison is
>>> a poor solution to the problem. My inclination would be to just kill them.
>>> Which would result in, no doubt, many cases of serial burglars becoming
>>> more violent. In other words, likely a case of the cure being worse than
>>> the disease.
>> ### A increased threat of being killed (by homeowners indemnified for
>> shooting invaders, or by automated security devices, or by constables
>> identifying you from security or traffic camera footage or by the hangman
>> after a quick trial) would be an inducement to commit more violence, rather
>> than back down?
>> How would that inducement to violence work, precisely?
> Destroy the cameras and kill all witnesses.  It's one thing if they're
> just going to jail, but if they will probably die if they leave anyone or
> anything that would recognize them, the cost of such destruction becomes
> worth it in more cases.

### Well, destroying *all* cameras? That's a tall order, mechanically,
whenever premises are protected by hidden or cloud-connected cameras. If
destroying cameras is easy, they would do it even if not threatened with
death. If it's difficult - they won't burglarize, knowing they will die for
their crime.

Yes, there is a risk that a burglar might be more inclined to kill random
homeowners and bystanders if he feels he has nothing much to lose. That's a
risk I would be willing to take. I would like to have the option of killing
burglars who invade my house, or having them killed by hired enforcers,
without fear of prosecution and I would be willing to advertise that option
on my house, clearly stating that burglary there will be punished by death.
Somebody who does not want to take that risk should be able to opt out. His
house will advertise leniency to burglars, thus enticing them not to kill
during their visits.

Different strokes for different folks.

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