[ExI] religious question

[William Flynn Wallace]

So, Kunvar, in your Mom's case, worship is like prayer and both are talking
to oneself as a form of pep talk.  If it gives your Mom hope then something
is definitively being accomplished.  As an aside, a maker of OTC pills
acknowledged that there was little research on any of them, but he said
that taking the pills gives people hope, and that's not an insignificant
thing.  bill w

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 3:21 PM Kunvar Thaman via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I'm an atheist but I grew up in a religious family and I think that their
> form of worship is alright. My mom is more religious than my dad, if we
> think in the conventional way.
>
> My dad thinks that's there's 'something' at play making everything around
> us so complex yet so simple. That something may not be someone. He's more
> of a 'some universal power' sort of person. He says that the more we find
> out the we know less. There's an inherent beauty to everything, and my dad
> calls that 'nature'. He believes that nature is cleverer than we are, and
> if there's something disagreeing with the nature, it's wrong.
>
> My mom is a bit more religious, but she worships by doing some praying for
> things like the better health of the family or better education for us,
> etc. She addresses no one in particular, just closes her eyes and says
> stuff like 'May you have ____' .
>
> Of course, it doesn't accomplish anything, but it gives her hope. She says
> that even if the thing she prayed for doesn't come true, she'd have hope
> and a reason to believe. It's sort of an emotional support system.
> On Fri, May 1, 2020, 12:08 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I think that maybe I asking the totally wrong group:
>>
>> What is your understanding of worship?  Where does it come from? What
>> does it accomplish?  Can there be a religion without worship?  Is it just a
>> form of great esteem, like we might have for Maxwell or Newton?
>>
>> bill w
>>
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