[ExI] atheists/religion

[William Flynn Wallace]

Maybe we could find a document (such as the Humanist Manifesto) or create
one that includes all of our beliefs. Then we could point people to that
rather than exhaustively telling people what we believe.  Are any of you
now or in the past members of the Unitarian Church?  Maybe that could be
our meeting place, our social support group.  Ballard is right:  we don't
have any organizations (not that I love those) that do good for the human
race, provide social support and all that she said.

Religious people often proselytize.  We don't.  Maybe we should approach
people and give them our 'testimony'.  Sounds absurd,doesn't it? But in a
way we are in a battle with them.  People are dropping out of churches,
though not necessarily without losing their faith.  And not necessarily
becoming skeptics and all that.  bill w

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 2:11 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *…*> *On Behalf Of *Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat
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> I agree. But I didn’t say anything negative about atheists. I said that I
> think they are sad, and therefore I feel sorry for them.
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> Speaking as an atheist: that is a negative comment about us.  Darn near
> insulting, in fact.  Certainly patronizing.
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> >…Sorry for that, I apologize to everyone who feels insulted, and I won’t
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> Hi Giulio no worries, that sentiment is very common, no offense taken.
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> Most of my family is religious, I am a flaming atheist.  I don’t make
> noise about that, nor do I hide it if asked.  They don’t understand how I
> could possibly have any happiness within, even though I clearly appear to.
> They don’t understand why I have any moral or ethical constraints, even if
> I explain that morals and ethics are not the property of any particular
> religion or deity.  They don’t accept it.  They don’t understand how I can
> have any hope for the future, even though I clearly do.  I explain that my
> hope isn’t for eternity, but rather a deep and meaningful hope for right
> now, and a deep and meaningful hope for the easily foreseeable, both of
> which I have more of than I can easily justify.  But hey, I am that way.
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