[ExI] next county

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Thu Aug 6 06:31:51 UTC 2020


On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 15:46, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [ExI] next county
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> > *On Behalf Of *Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat
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> >…Yes, but the point I was making is that EVEN IF it were in the
> government’s power to order everyone back to life as usual it would not
> have the desired effect if there was a real problem… Stathis
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> Stathis, how does Australia count fatalities with, of, related to (etc)
> Covid?  Do they have a way to distinguish between the WITHs and the OFs?
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> I found this site with some data, but it doesn’t say how or if it
> differentiates between the Withs and the Ofs:
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> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
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> I notice their graphs are free of caveats and explanations of methods.
> Better than nothing I suppose:
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> Stefan Lofven of Sweden was one who ignored the problem and hoped it would
> go away.  It did:
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> Sweden did almost nothing.
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> How is Scott Morrison handling the crisis?  Are Australian schools open
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> Stathis, does the Australian government have the authority to make people
> stay home?  If they don’t, what happens?
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> spike
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Unfortunately, Australia had almost eliminated the virus a couple of months
ago, when it took off again in one state (Victoria), and now there are
hundreds of cases a day. Everything was returning to normal with
businesses, schools and so on but now the restrictions in Victoria are
back, with fines for not wearing a mask or being more than 5km from your
home without an excuse (such as being an essential worker). The other
states have also closed their borders to stop Victorians travelling there.

As far as I know, deaths are counted according to what the doctor puts on
the death certificate. It is sometimes difficult without an autopsy to be
sure what someone with multiple comorbidities has died of, but if COVID-19
is the final illness, that is what is put on the death certificate. If
someone is hit by a car and they suffer from other conditions, they are
more likely to die than a healthy person with the same injuries, but it is
still the car that is said to have killed them.


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Stathis Papaioannou
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