[ExI] Everett worlds

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 16 20:13:51 UTC 2020


dylan wrote - , The Swerve is a fascinating book about the rediscovery and
preservation of Lucretius's masterful Epicurean poem. I second that
recommendation   bill w


On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 3:03 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> For those interested, Sam Harris, has thought a lot about this topic.  He
> doesn't believe in free will and has a similar attitude to John.   His book
> Free Will is a start, but it permeates all of his thought.
>
> For those who want a non-scientifc way out of this conundrum, read
> Lucretius's De Rerum Natura.   He posits a swerve at the atomic level
> (Greek/Roman atoms, not ours), that allows for free will.
>
> As an aside, The Swerve is a fascinating book about the rediscovery and
> preservation of Lucretius's masterful Epicurean poem.
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 3:50 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> *> I’m sorry but if free will is wrong then there is no crime or guilt.
>>> No motivation. People cannot change themselves, they are fully at the whim
>>> of outside forces and cannot be held accountable. *
>>>
>>
>> Sure they can. The only reason to hold anyone accountable for doing a
>> bad thing is to prevent more bad things from happening in the future.
>> That's justice, doing more than that, making an evil doer suffer just for
>> the joy of watching him suffer is vengeance. The threat of punishment is
>> just one more outside force pushing people in the direction of not hurting
>> other people, and I like that direction. I don't like vengeance.
>>
>>  John K Clark
>>
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