[ExI] Everett worlds

[Will Steinberg]

Dylan:

Essentially, God--whatever that is--makes every choice at the beginning of
the universe experiment.  These may not be the choices of what does Dave
eat for breakfast on Sunday morning but instead stuff like values of the
fine structure constant and the geometries of special unitary groups.

I find it very hard to believe in individual free will, but I still believe
that my actions are part of a specific experiment that contributes to the
knowledge base of the universe.

In a sense I don't believe that God is implicitly omniscient but rather
that said omniscience comes from the actual structure of reality.  Sort of
like Jorge Luis Borges' infinite hexagonal library (the name of which I
forget.) God only has knowledge of what the being named me does because the
knowledge of my doing of things that a being named me does is completely
immanent within said being (me) and its doings.  The '-science' is right
here, so to speak.  And I think it is literally science in the sense that
all universes are experiments.

For what purpose?  Entertainment perhaps (cf. Hindu concept of Lila or
divine play) or maybe knowledge gathering from a super-reality.  Which
would also have a super-reality gathering knowledge on it through similar
experiments.  I'm a believer in turtles all the way down, I simply don't
see any other way it could work out.  There is no final heaven

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 11:02 Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I'm not sure I understand this concept, care to elaborate?
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 10:57 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> There is a third option which I think is related to what Giulio is
>> suggesting: the volition would take place at the beginning of the universe
>> and apply to everything within, so the universe would be 'chosen' freely
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 10:20 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 10:05 AM Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Others dislike Everett’s fully deterministic QM because it leaves no
>>>> room for free will.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is no room for free will with any interpretation of quantum
>>> mechanics, or in classical mechanics, or in anything, because the idea of
>>> free will just makes no sense. Something either happens because of cause
>>> and effect or it doesn't happen because of cause-and-effect (aka it's
>>> random) and free will fans would not be happy with either. And so I fear
>>> free will fans are destined to be unhappy.
>>>
>>>  John K Clark
>>>
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