[ExI] did sweden accidentally achieve herd immunity?

spike at rainier66.com spike at rainier66.com
Wed Aug 19 18:39:08 UTC 2020

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From: Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 11:34 AM
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Cc: spike at rainier66.com
Subject: Re: [ExI] did sweden accidentally achieve herd immunity?


Yep.  Until 2006 and a Bush commission the Swedish approach has been considered the most rational approach for dealing with a pandemic.  That has been so since WWII.  In 2006 the computer modelers won the day and got lockdown on the official list of possible responses.  But note we did not do that for the Swine Flu pandemic of 2009.    Mass lockdowns and such were frowned upon for major panicking of population and huge potential hit on economy.  It was believed, I think rightly, that lockdowns widen, deepen and prolong the misery. 

On Aug 14, 2020, at 4:08 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:









 <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/


Sweden did less than other countries on Covid.  They did shut down schools, but didn’t do all that much else.


The Swedish approach was not advertised as looking to achieve herd immunity, but that might be what is happening here.


As Reason magazine points out, if they accidentally blundered into achieving even partial herd immunity, it is good news for the species:


 <https://reason.com/2020/08/14/did-sweden-accidentally-blunder-into-covid-19-herd-immunity/?utm_medium=email> https://reason.com/2020/08/14/did-sweden-accidentally-blunder-into-covid-19-herd-immunity/?utm_medium=email



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