[ExI] Mental Phenomena

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Thu Feb 6 05:13:29 UTC 2020


On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 10:04, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> Hi Stathis,
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 3:02 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> And the reason is that if you repeat it back you seem to agree, but then
>> later disagree. It would help if you clearly said something like “there can
>> be a change in qualia without a change in behaviour”. (And I have defined
>> behaviour: it is everything that can be observed, including speech, and not
>> just strawberry-picking ability).
>>
>
> If you were listening to me, and repeating back to me what I've been
> trying to say, instead of incorrectly saying what I've never said: “there
> can be a change in qualia without a change in behaviour”, you would
> acknowledge that I'm trying to say something closer to qualia and qualia
> behavior are the same thing.  If the behavior isn't changing, and qualia
> are changing, that changing qualia must be some place else.  And if you
> substitute all behavior (or function or magic or anything), with something
> that is different, and the qualia never change, qualia are impossible, or
> at best not approachable via science.
>

If you agree that the qualia cannot change unless the behaviour changes,
that is functionalism.

> --
Stathis Papaioannou
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