[ExI] The world would be so much better if everyone knows everything

Dylan Distasio interzone at gmail.com
Sun Feb 9 01:42:00 UTC 2020


This is similar to the Roman concept of otium, but of course, they weren't
doing the heavy lifting on the farm:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otium

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 8:02 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> will wrote:  We should live in close-knit communes where children are
> raised jointly, people make their own food and energy, and art and
> scientific innovation are produced within.
>
> Ah yes, the thinking man's Eden.  I think it would work only with smart
> people, but making their own food and energy would take a lot of time away
> from intellectual creativity and research.  There are some things that need
> to be outsourced.
>
> And people are doing the opposite:  moving away from the countryside and
> into the cities where growing food is impossible in quantity.  But I would
> love to live in such a place as you describe, where I can garden without
> having to do all the weeding, and intellectual companionship is close by.
> That said, I think the history of the successes and failures of communes
> is pretty dismal.
>
> bill w
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:34 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 7:17 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> And if the Saudi and Iranian citizens knew who the secret police were
>>> *and* how little threat different religions and homosexuality actually
>>> posed.
>>>
>>>
>> This is a different kind of knowledge.  This is everyone knowing TRUTH.
>> As opposed to knowing actions, behaviors, opinions, etc of others.  The
>> latter is fairly possible in some kind of dystopian world.  The former is
>> more of a magic thought experiment kind of thing.
>>
>> Sort of a nebulous concept anyway if it's not pared down.
>>
>> In any case, I don't think knowing about everyone else's life is
>> necessarily good.  Too much information.
>>
>> We should live in close-knit communes where children are raised jointly,
>> people make their own food and energy, and art and scientific innovation
>> are produced within.
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