[ExI] Mental Phenomena

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Fri Feb 14 01:07:04 UTC 2020

Hi stathis,

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:57 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> How are you going to upload redness without glutamate inside the computer?
Ah, the real reason stathis and everyone is so loath to give up their
cherished beliefs about quaila being substrate independent.
The fact of the matter is, redness is something.  We don't know yet, what,
but it is still a quality of something.
So this basically proves that a machine that is intentionally designed to
be independent of such things (via lots of dictionaries.) aren't going to
have any redness.

But, this doesn't mean simulations, even phenomenal simulations, aren't
going to be possible.

If we don't want to worry about things like turning humans off, when we
restart our simulations, and other such immoral stuff, we just do
everything in an amoral abstract way, that isn't physically like anything.

If we want a phenomenal simulation, we need to make simulated knowledge out
of basement level physical knowledge, like our brain does, when it
simulates reality.  Anything we want, including going though walls, is
possible in these kinds of simulated worlds of knowledge.

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