[ExI] Muslim and Supermuslim: Toward Islamic transhumanism?

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 27 22:38:34 UTC 2020


Now see, I would say that if the concept of a god or gods is vague, then
maybe it's not a religion.  But what if the person prays or talks to the
gods?  Now we are bringing in religious elements.

How is atheism like nondairy creamer?  Answer:  Both refer to what they are
not, not what they are.  Which is why I prefer 'naturalist', even with the
confusion.

bill w

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 1:37 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Agreed.  Specific versions of theism - belief in specific gods - can be a
> religion, but the mere concept that there are gods with no further
> definition - such as whether they are worthy of worship, let alone their
> names and personalities - is not.
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I would say that about theism as well. Theism per se is not religion;
>> it’s just belief that there is/are a god/gods. It doesn’t even mean the
>> person believes based on faith. (For the record, I’m an atheist. I just
>> want to be clear about the concepts.)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dan
>>    Sample my Kindle books at:
>>
>> http://author.to/DanUst
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2020, at 10:06 AM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> If atheism is a nonbelief, how can it be a religion?  To me, a belief in
>> something is accepting at least part of it on faith.  As scientists we
>> don't take anything on faith.  So science also is not a religion.
>>
>> bill w
>>
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