[ExI] Muslim and Supermuslim: Toward Islamic transhumanism?

Dan TheBookMan danust2012 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 27 22:57:44 UTC 2020

That depends on the context. Naturally, a distinction like atheist/theist covers such a broad range because it’s so much abstract (not necessarily vague). It’s not really meant to be more precise. Of course, many atheists are scientific realists or into philosophical naturalism. 

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> On Feb 27, 2020, at 2:41 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> Now see, I would say that if the concept of a god or gods is vague, then maybe it's not a religion.  But what if the person prays or talks to the gods?  Now we are bringing in religious elements.
> How is atheism like nondairy creamer?  Answer:  Both refer to what they are not, not what they are.  Which is why I prefer 'naturalist', even with the confusion.   
> bill w
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 1:37 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> Agreed.  Specific versions of theism - belief in specific gods - can be a religion, but the mere concept that there are gods with no further definition - such as whether they are worthy of worship, let alone their names and personalities - is not.
>>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:27 AM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> I would say that about theism as well. Theism per se is not religion; it’s just belief that there is/are a god/gods. It doesn’t even mean the person believes based on faith. (For the record, I’m an atheist. I just want to be clear about the concepts.)
>>> Regards,
>>> Dan
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