[ExI] The Japanese mystery: why so few COVID cases?

[William Flynn Wallace]

Wouldn't the ideal situation be that the patient gets white blood cells
injected?  In the future I assume that they will be able to make anything.
 bill w

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:18 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [ExI] The Japanese mystery: why so few COVID cases?
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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *John Clark via extropy-chat
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> >>…For goodness sake Spike…Killing the COVID-19 virus is super easy and
> so is killing cancer cells, the hard part is to kill them without also
> killing or mutating human cells.  John K Clark
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> >…OK so here we go, no worries (or rather low worries)… we UV the covid at
> a low enough dose to destroy them, let their wrecked remains trigger the
> immune response in the remaining intact system…spike
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> Further thinking, we can do even better.
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> Leucocytes are bigger than RBCs and they flow differently from the red
> cells.  The first minute or so of this video shows how they roll, both
> erythrocytes and leukocytes, in comparison to the RBCs:
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> WBCs are our friends, we don’t want to wreck those babies in a sick
> patient.  We will need all of the white cells we can get for the task at
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> We have very advanced control systems, we have image recognition, we have
> UV pulse laser, controllable down to the microsecond level, or even
> lens-collimated UV (we used this for selective UV curing of epoxy in a
> satellite (and come to think of it, we have that for UV curing polymer
> fillings in our teeth.))  We have everything we need to make a modification
> to a dialysis machine that would UV pulse laser the RBCs and leave the
> white cells un-UVed.  We would need to create a manifold to drop the blood
> into glass capillaries, perhaps add some plasma to make everything flow
> smoothly, UV the flow as it passes, centrifuge out the excess plasma for
> reuse (if that is necessary at all (it might not be (I don’t know that much
> about dialysis machines))) then drop the UV-exposed blood back into the
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> Alternative, go ahead and UV all the blood cells in a low-cost variation,
> hope the bone marrow can keep up with the job of making up for the wrecked
> leucocytes.  This might work if the patient is young and vigorous.
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> Another alternative (of course I would think of this one being a
> registered marrow donor): create a temporary marrow insertion, possibly
> even from an imperfectly matched donor, let that donated marrow produce
> white cells, remove donated marrow as soon as the patient’s crisis passes,
> before patient’s immune system recognizes the benevolent foreign marrow.
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> Theory: if the destroyed virus cells go back into the patient, the
> unharmed leucocytes find them and do what leucocytes do so very well,
> patient recovers.
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> From what I can find, the reason we don’t have UV treatment yet is not
> that it slays the patient or increases the risk of cancer but rather we
> don’t know much about the efficacy of the therapy, and of course it would
> cost a lot and be pain in the ass.  But dialysis patients already have the
> costs and the pain, and if a person with bad kidneys gets covid there is
> already a high risk for the old Adios Amigo anyway, so we can justify these
> longshot kinds of ideas.  Then if it works on dialysis patients, it will
> work even better on covid patients with good kidneys.
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> I don’t see why this should be such a controversial idea.  If I had covid
> right now I will be willing to let the medics fire it up and try it on me.
> Wouldn’t you?
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