[ExI] lag time

[William Flynn Wallace]

I wonder if someone could get ahold of cell phone use data.  I suspect that
many of those kids are sending/receiving dozens, even hundreds of texts a
day to experience the 'touch' of other kids.  ("Reach out and touch
someone." was a great advertising idea)

As for the kids in bars and dance halls (there's an old phrase) you have to
wonder if they have seen the news about the virus affecting nearly everyone
at some bar or family reunion (one boy had it and gave it to 18 of his
relatives).  Maybe they have, and still have the 'can't happen to me - I am
invincible' type of youngster.

Spike - keep 'em out. Save lives.  A few will take the virus home and kill
older relatives - absolutely no doubt of this.  There is NO critical period
in youth where they have to learn social skills or they never will learn
them.  It may be nerve-wracking to them, but they will survive - esp if
they have cell phones.  (not contradicting you here, Henry).

In less serious news. MIssissippi's governor signed a bill to make the
whole state wet, validating the amendment (still local option, though -
have to vote to get wet;  but at least they can)
 bill w

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:34 PM Henry Rivera via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> The kids who desperately need the social interaction are ones who tend to
> only get social interaction at school and within their homes. They don’t
> “socialize” online much like their peers, and they don’t seek out social
> opportunities. Forced socializing at school by virtue of participating in
> work groups, lunch, and answering their teachers  is their only practical
> hope for this crucial part of their development. These kids even not in a
> pandemic would not be socializing with others if they could help it, and in
> a pandemic it’s all to easy for them to avoid and stay isolated with little
> opportunity for any alternative. Many have regressed socially at this time
> I imagine. Video learning for them may be an option for academic
> competencies, but it isn’t addressing their social development needs.
> -Henry
>
> On Jul 4, 2020, at 12:25 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> The data here is from the county where I live, Santa Clara CA.  Check out
> these two graphs, about a third of the way down the page, to estimate the
> lag time between new case detection and death rate:
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> https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/santa-clara-county/
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> If you look at the initial surge, it kinda looks like there was a big
> surge around late March.  But the big surge in death per day was about
> almost middle of April.
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> With the partial re-opening of some businesses (and the unfortunate
> coincident timing of the rallies and riots complicating the picture) we
> will perhaps get some indication of what is going on.  Our current rate
> shows that covid is killing about half a prole a day in this county of
> about 2 million.  The rate appears to be declining gradually, but with
> these numbers it is hard to tell for sure.  So now we see what happens in
> about a week.
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> I am focused on this data because of my role in a volunteer committee
> regarding public school opening.
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> I tend to be a bit over on the cautious side.  I also realize I am a
> parent of a student who does just fine with video and distance learning.
> But I know of those students who do not.  I am told there are some students
> who desperately need social interaction (nearly every day (for mental
> health reasons (indeed?  (why?)))) and that video learning is practically
> useless to them.  Well, ok then.  I believes it but I doesn’t understands
> it.
>
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> On the other hand… people to go bars and restaurants and gun shops by
> choice.  People even go to grocery stores by choice.  But public school
> students are compelled to attend.  So… I hold my position: when in doubt,
> hold em out.
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> Anyone here who wishes to offer suggestions, particularly the insighty
> types, BillW, SR, anyone else who has public school experience, I am all
> ears.  We hafta wait for about a week or two, to see where the case rate
> and death rate goes, but at this point I am compelled to say we can’t let
> the proles back on campus the entire first semester.  I plan to use my
> committee member vote to recommend we not open in September.  Too much risk
> of asymptomatic students carrying the virus home and killing grandma.
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> spike
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