[ExI] Jimmy 'the Greek' Snyder

[William Flynn Wallace]

Perhaps I missed them because I thought when I read them that they were
ludicrous.  Personal defense is a good idea, but most people never get
attacked.  Private security would, I assume cost more than what we get with
tax dollars and poor people could not afford it.

Voluntary police:  I can see this working if a town is not larger than a
few hundred.  Numerous problems here, including training, insurance if
hurt, and the likelihood that an ordinary citizen would go on a call where
shooting is occuring.  I just can't see getting thousands of volunteers in
big cities where violent crime is not rare at all but happens many times a
day.

Just to give one example:  which of the above would deal with maniacs
driving 120 mph on city streets?    bill w

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:31 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> You must have missed the three examples I gave in my first two sentences:
>
> 1. “personal self-defense“
>
> 2. “voluntary defense associations for those extremely rare occasions when
> violent confrontations happen”
>
> 3. “Private security”
>
> I brought up the Benson book and the Smith essay as examples of a vast
> literature by libertarians on how to deal with this issue. Not only is the
> literature vast, but it goes back decades. The idea of dismantling the
> police and government in general are not really all that new in libertarian
> circles. Again, they’ve been discussed and written about before I was born.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
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>
> http://author.to/DanUst
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> On Jun 9, 2020, at 2:21 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> I am simply not interested enough in it to read a book.  But just a hint
> or two about how to deal with crime without police would be a help.  bill w
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 3:37 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't have all the answers here, but personal self-defense and
>> voluntary defense associations for those extremely rare occasions when
>> violent confrontations happen. Private security already plays a role in
>> current US-American society, such as security guards inside shopping malls
>> and the like. So I don't see any reason why people can't specialize in
>> security and things like detection and apprehension of suspects. What
>> wouldn't exist under such a system is a group of people who have special
>> privileges because of this specialization. (And self-help wouldn't be
>> outlawed.)
>>
>> Elsewhere I mentioned Bruce L. Benson's 1990 book _The Enterprise of
>> Law: Justice Without the State_. He goes over much of this in far more
>> depth than me. Also, market anarchists have been discussing how to deal
>> with crime without the state for decades now. This is all part of the
>> literature of libertarian thought, no? (What shocks me is meeting people
>> who call themselves libertarians who seem unaware of this work. Have you
>> heard of Benson's work? That's not his only book. How about George H.
>> Smith? Have you read his essay "Justice Entrepreneurship In a Free Market"?
>> He wrote on this subject back in 1979!)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dan
>>
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