[ExI] Protest

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Sat Jun 13 02:01:41 UTC 2020


On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 02:00, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *John Clark via extropy-chat
> *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 8:16 AM
> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Cc:* John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Protest
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> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:23 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> >> *He still gets to count as a C-19 related fatality, *
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> >…Where in the world did you get that idea?!
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> *> **Here:*
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> https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/white-house-taking-very-liberal-approach-counting-covid-19-deaths
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> Things change quickly in a pandemic. That article is ANCIENT…
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> >…Also, you could find better places to get your news, "justthenews.com"
> does not just give the news, it's a conservative pro …
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> Is C-Span conservative?  I never really thought of them as a conservative
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> https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4868448/user-clip-liberal-approach-mortality
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> but if you insist, I shall flee to a safe space, such as Mother Jones (no
> relation.)  Oh, I see that CNN and MSNBC are also in on the conservative
> conspiracy, as well as the other news majors.  Oh wait, Mother Jones ran
> that clip too.  Are Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci part of the conspiracy?  There
> are no safe spaces left, what shall we do?
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> I Googled “…took a very liberal approach to covid mortality” and
> justthenews was the first one that came up.
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> John, everyone here is not political.  The way countries count covid
> mortality is not necessarily politically driven, there are other motives,
> such as financial reasons.  In the US, there was no conspiracy needed:
> hospitals set up a special billing fund if the patient died of covid.  So,
> they tested the patients for covid after they were already dead.  They
> tested George Floyd after he was already dead and they knew he had a
> co-morbidity (asphyxiation.)
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> >…Trump…
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> As soon as you mention the name of any politician or party, we know you
> are back to your incessant campaigning, haranguing this list where it isn’t
> appropriate or welcome, as we have told you repeatedly.  Please take it
> elsewhere.  Even if many on this list agree in principal, the constant
> howling at the moon is most annoying and counterproductive.  The reason
> many of our most valued posters have left this space John, is that the
> constant campaigning is not what we are here for.  If we want politics, we
> know where to find that.
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> If you are campaigning in a post about covid, it comes across as if you
> are cheering for the virus.  Separate those two concepts please.  Then
> kindly eliminate the one: we are tired of it.  When Kennedy posts about
> covid, he doesn’t campaign, and it doesn’t come across as cheering for the
> virus.  The virus is not an opportunity, it’s a crisis.  Some crises should
> go to waste.
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> *> **We are over-reporting, they* [China] *are under-reporting*
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> >…And you know that to be true because you want it to be true.  John K
> Clark
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> Do you believe China’s case load suddenly dropped to zero and has never
> come back?  Every other country, including those where the government has
> the authority to shut down everything until their people starve still has
> cases.  China is reporting zero.  China gave this horrifying epidemic to
> this planet through their dishonesty in attempting a coverup back when we
> had time to react.  I don’t believe China.
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There are several countries that have done very well containing and
limiting cases. Taiwan is an example, even though it is densely populated
and close to China. The behaviour of the virus is non-linear, and
relatively small differences in management of the situation can make large
differences in the numbers.

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Stathis Papaioannou
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