[ExI] Muslim and Supermuslim: Toward Islamic transhumanism?

[Giulio Prisco]

Hi Ben, I'm aware of the "violence and coerciveness" that has often
been practiced by organized believers. I'm also aware of the
equivalent violence and coerciveness that has often been practiced by
organized atheists. Here in Eastern Europe, everyone has horror
stories to tell about the violent and coercive persecution of
believers that happened until a couple of decades ago.

And this is my best example of how the "arguments" of atheists against
believers fail: Their own camp is guilty of exactly the same violent
and coercive behavior of which they accuse the other camp.

As you say, philosophical convictions shouldn't be blamed for the
violent and coercive behavior of assholes in both camps (just like
football shouldn't be blamed for violent hooliganism). But I think
that, in both camps, the reasonable majority should disown and
denounce unreasonable minorities.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 12:30 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> On 29/02/2020 22:01, Giulio Prisco wrote:
> > my point is that the “arguments” of atheists against believers can be
> > redirected at the atheists themselves, who often behave exactly like
> > fundamentalist believers.
>
> Can you give us some examples of these arguments?
>
>  From your use of quotes, I take it you don't think they are valid
> arguments in the first place, but I'd like to hear what they are.
>
> I also take it that when you talk about the behaviour of fundamentalist
> believers, you are excluding the violence and coerciveness which most
> people think is the problem with fundamentalism.
>
> --
> Ben Zaiboc
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