[ExI] Muslim and Supermuslim: Toward Islamic transhumanism?
William Flynn Wallace
foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 2 14:47:39 UTC 2020
There are lots of militant religious organizations and many violent deeds.
I have yet to see any attributed to militant atheists. Examples please?
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:57 AM Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> Hi Ben, I'm aware of the "violence and coerciveness" that has often
> been practiced by organized believers. I'm also aware of the
> equivalent violence and coerciveness that has often been practiced by
> organized atheists. Here in Eastern Europe, everyone has horror
> stories to tell about the violent and coercive persecution of
> believers that happened until a couple of decades ago.
> And this is my best example of how the "arguments" of atheists against
> believers fail: Their own camp is guilty of exactly the same violent
> and coercive behavior of which they accuse the other camp.
> As you say, philosophical convictions shouldn't be blamed for the
> violent and coercive behavior of assholes in both camps (just like
> football shouldn't be blamed for violent hooliganism). But I think
> that, in both camps, the reasonable majority should disown and
> denounce unreasonable minorities.
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 12:30 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> > On 29/02/2020 22:01, Giulio Prisco wrote:
> > > my point is that the “arguments” of atheists against believers can be
> > > redirected at the atheists themselves, who often behave exactly like
> > > fundamentalist believers.
> > Can you give us some examples of these arguments?
> > From your use of quotes, I take it you don't think they are valid
> > arguments in the first place, but I'd like to hear what they are.
> > I also take it that when you talk about the behaviour of fundamentalist
> > believers, you are excluding the violence and coerciveness which most
> > people think is the problem with fundamentalism.
> > --
> > Ben Zaiboc
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