[ExI] Non-locality of conscious observers implies panpsychism without omniscience

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 14:42:52 UTC 2020

 Tell me why it is wrong.
Stuart LaForge

I can't say that it is wrong.  But this turns out to be useful in
understanding, predicting, and controlling behavior (the aims of
psychology) I'll be a toasted toad.  This kind of thing tells me why we
don't study any physics in psych grad school.

bill w

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:09 AM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Consciousness (but not knowledge) might be non-local phenomenon. So
> here is an interesting thought experiment:
> Imagine a conscious observer. Now notice that while a conscious
> observer must have some none-zero rest mass, it is at all times at
> rest with respect to itself by definition of its own frame of
> reference. Consequently, its velocity and therefore momentum relative
> to itself is zero. This means that the uncertainty in the conscious
> observer's momentum is also zero. Since by the quantum mechanics of
> wave functions and Heisenberg uncertainty, zero uncertainty in your
> momentum is equivalent to infinite uncertainty in your position, the
> conscious observer exists throughout all of space. In other words, you
> have no clue which universe you are in BECAUSE you are in an infinite
> number of universes BECAUSE you are a conscious observer. And as a
> corollary no conscious observer is allowed by physics to be omniscient.
> Think about it as your soul passing through a slit of zero width and
> diffracting everywhere. This idea sounds very Deepak Chopra to even to
> me so be brutal. Tell me why it is wrong.
> Stuart LaForge
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