[ExI] zoom creates language weirdness

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 13 18:44:46 UTC 2020


I wasn't a lousy player, but I wasn't All State BAnd either.  My problem
all my life has been too many enthusiasms to get really good at anything.
I just love to get excited about something new:  (hello iPhone 12 Pro Max!
and Apple Watch).

Are programmers the musicians of the future?  Have you ever heard a Yamaha
Clavinova?  Its ability to duplicate sounds of all the instruments is just
amazing ( and mine is over ten years old).  I played a 7 foot Yamaha grand
piano once and cannot tell the difference between it and my Clavinova.  You
could make a recording like you describe using only it - no players at all;
just someone making keyboard entries.  I have not checked out what AI music
composers are doing lately, but I read that some of them can write music
experts cannot tell from Bach.

But there is nothing like playing an instrument, even if you cannot play it
at world class levels.  bill w

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:20 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >…Spike, that is really great news for an old band boy (bass sax,
> Sousaphone, trombone - changed because the drunks in the back row at the
> football stadium kept trying to play my Sousaphone - so I changed to
> trombone - way easier to carry).  Imagination will carry the day.   bill w
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> BillW, do extrapolate forward please.  We have heard high school choirs
> and bands.  We know the inherent limitations: they usually don’t sound very
> good.  The players haven’t achieved the requisite level of mastery on their
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> But if you have a group with each submitting an audio file which can be
> edited, and you have a person who knows what she is doing with music
> editing software, she can make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.  The whole
> sounds waaay better than the sum of its parts.
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> This is particularly relevant to those of us who have been in bands and
> choirs.  We already know that any school group has a few good players.  The
> product doesn’t need to contain every voice and every contributing
> instrument: the lousy ones don’t need to be used.  The good ones can be
> replicated, modified and superimposed such that the same wav file sounds
> like two different good players, or arbitrarily many good players.
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> The lousy players can imagine their voice is in there, but that illusion
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