[ExI] puzzling
William Flynn Wallace
foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 18 18:30:40 UTC 2020
A problem, not 4th amendment, with universal access to medical records is,
of course, insurance companies. I think they are now barred from denying
insurance to those with pre-existing conditions (?), but there are many
other things in a record that could cause them to require high premiums
(and why are they called 'premiums'?)
bill w
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 1:02 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> > *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] puzzling
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> >…Hey Spike et alii - did you see the article on Estonia and how
> interconnected they are? Any doctor can view your medical records, with
> your permission I am assuming, so if you have to go to the emergency they
> can know all about your medical history. Now if that were required, we'd
> have privacy rights trouble with it, no?
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> Hi BillW, no trouble at all: requiring such a system isn’t allowed in the
> US. Medical records are covered under 4th amendment privacy rights. We
> yanks have the option of having our medical records completely accessible
> of course, and I can see the wisdom of doing that.
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> As far as legal infrastructure to this, the AIDS pandemic of the 80s
> brought a lot of this into the open. In 1988 diver Greg Louganis conked
> his head on the diving platform and bled into the pool. He didn’t tell
> anyone he had been diagnosed with HIV.
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> The huge debate was over whether Louganis had a moral and ethical
> obligation to tell the officials: in my opinion he did. But did he have a
> legal obligation? No. The 1988 games were in Seoul South Korea, which has
> nothing analogous to our 4th amendment rights, but he is a US citizen,
> so… no.
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> Regarding the notion of having some kind of universally-accessible medical
> records, consider that one might be taken to the ER unable to tell the
> doctors anything (how well I get that (I was, back in December (all is well
> now (apparently it wasn’t covid.)))) It would have big advantages if the
> medics could get to the records quickly. In my case they did. I made it
> thru the front door, sat in the nearest wheelchair. Someone came up to me
> and said “Are you Mr. Jones?” I said: “I am, and I have insurance
> bigtime.” They took it from there. Computers are great. Love em. I
> don’t have an embedded computer ID chip (are those approved for humans?)
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> spike
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