[ExI] Human Fetal Tissue Research

[Dylan Distasio]

Bill-

Not that anyone asked, but it sounds like you and I are in exact alignment
on this issue all around.

The only nuance for me I would add to your position is that I don't think a
mother who was put into that spot against her will via rape should find
anything immoral in aborting a fetus she had no choice in creating.
 There's also the added argument of potential bad genes being introduced
into the world by carrying it to term under the assumption that rapists are
not always just products of their environment.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 1:12 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Dylan, here is my position:  When an embryo attaches itself to the uterine
> wall, it has a good chance of surviving the 39 weeks.  To wash it out is to
> stop a human life.  No, not a potential life, a life.
>
> So I am opposed to it except for protecting the mother's health.  However,
> I support no laws, I support Roe v Wade, and I don't want anyone to
> interfere with a human's sex life in any way at all.  I am a libertarian.
>
> I do think that using abortion as a birth control method is highly
> immoral.  I personally know the operator of the only abortion clinic in
> Mississippi, a former student of mine, .  She too, thinks multiple
> abortions are immoral, though she will not stop letting them happen.  It's
> a woman's right, as we see it.
>
> As for fetal tissue:  why not let the poor thing make some contribution to
> science?  I see nothing immoral about it.
>
> bill w
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:46 AM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's legal.  As Spike mentioned, they're free to go raise the money
>> for it somewhere else.   If you're someone who considers life starting at
>> the moment of conception, and all abortion as murder, I can understand why
>> you don't want your taxpayer dollars going to support it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 12:25 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> So get private funding.  Then study what makes sense rather than what
>>> government dictates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> spike
>>>
>>>
>>> Is fetal tissue legal even privately?    bill w
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:44 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:27 AM
>>>> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>>>> *Cc:* Gregory Jones <spike at rainier66.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Human Fetal Tissue Research
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 8:10 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
>>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *> **So have this funded privately.  If you accept government money
>>>> you have to play by gove*rnment rules.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >…Spike, is there ANY action the current Presidential administration
>>>> could take that you would not defend with every fiber of your being?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John K Clark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John everything isn’t about presidents or politics.  If you take
>>>> government money, you play by government rules.  Is there any politics in
>>>> that comment?  Any defense of any presidential action?  If so, note the
>>>> comment “if you take government money, you play by government rules.”  If
>>>> you don’t like their control, don’t take “their” money.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind that “government money” is paid by taxpayers.  Where we
>>>> don’t want to go is having a lot of taxpayers recognize that their money is
>>>> going to support something they consider morally abhorrent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So get private funding.  Then study what makes sense rather than what
>>>> government dictates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> spike
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