[ExI] IQ and mental health

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 28 15:27:52 UTC 2021


 Emotions are still a base level instinctual reaction.
Only partly true.  We have lots of conditioned emotions via the Pavlov
technique of pairing a stimulus with an unconditioned stimulus.  Such as
learned fears.  Road rage.  Which leads to the conclusion that if you can
avoid stimuli that elicit anger you can help control that anger.

I am interested to know just how you quash anger and why it takes you so
long.  Not prying - just interested.  Any answer we can add to emotional
controls is useful.  bill w

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 10:13 AM Nuala Thomson via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I agree with both Brent and Bill.
> I suffer from BPD which (simply put) means my emotions are usually
> extremes and I'm very impulsive. I'm aware of it, I know how to cope with
> it, I know how to resist impulses, I know when to keep my mouth shut, and
> most importantly I knew something was wrong with me and to seek help and
> get the training I needed to have some control. I'm very aware when I'm
> irrational and it still takes me 2-3 days to get anger under control and
> think like a rational and logical person.
> So yes I agree IQ may help but only so far. Emotions are still a base
> level instinctual reaction.
> I think the situation, and self awareness play a big part on whether you
> can help yourself or not, and whether you educate yourself, regardless of
> subject matter. Which swings us back to IQ playing a part as I'm sure all
> of us self-educate on any number of topics.
> My latest topic of interest being negotiation vs compromise and contracts
> for long-term relationships. It makes sense to me as it takes out all of
> the possible mind-reading, and lays clear wants, needs, and expectations.
> Off topic.
> Life, emotions, thinking patterns and behaviours are all dialectic. There
> is no right or wrong.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat., Aug. 28, 2021, 11:23 William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat, <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Just think about it:  IQ means a lot of adaptability to new situations
>> and ability to generalize to new ways of dealing with problems, emotional
>> and otherwise.  Ideas are just ways of thinking about something in the
>> abstract.  The cognitive side cannot completely control the emotional side,
>> but having more ideas helps a lot.  I have always climbed out of my
>> problems by myself, with one small exception - saw a psych.  for one visit
>> and decided that I could come up with ideas as well as he could.  IQ helps
>> mental health - no doubt.  bill w
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