avant at sollegro.com
Sat Aug 28 16:22:17 UTC 2021
Quoting Dave Sill:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 9:39 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> However, some arrogance is earned, isn't it? No, I don't like arrogance
>> at all, but a pride in the accomplishments of the USA is deserved.
> Having pride in the accomplishments of one's country is OK, I suppose,
> though I think real pride would come more from having an active role in
> these accomplishments rather than a twist of fate.
> But expressing that pride...that's just arrogance.
Is it? If expressing pride in ones country is arrogance, then
disparaging ones country is just plain rude. The truest indicator of
the quality of the USA is one is freely allowed to express distaste
for it without being shot or sent to a prison camp to be re-educated.
From my POV, the USA is a relatively young country at less than 250
years old and thus has a shorter list of sins than most. Close calls
not-withstanding, the American republic still stands as a legitimate
democracy, and we have only fought one civil war. By my reckoning, we
are doing well and good both. For comparison the Republic of Rome
lasted about 500 years and fell during its 7th and final civil war
which resulted in the reign of the Caesars.
It should be noted that Rome fought three separate civil wars over
slavery, and their slaves lost all three. The USA certainly did not
invent slavery, but our civil war made it illegal, modern-day black
market human trafficking aside.
We have brought the world telephones, airplanes, and cheeseburgers. We
are nowhere near perfect, but we are largely a better country than we
were 50, 100, or 200 years ago. The Great Experiment continues. What
experiment is that? How much freedom, power, and responsibility can a
society entrust to its individuals.
Long live America!
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