[ExI] probability

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 at 12:57, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> By reducing it to the numbers you call out, it sounds a lot like
> one-size-fits-all medicine.  But the real picture is far more complex.  I
> would develop a distrust of the person calling out those numbers.
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> >…My point is that they don’t dispute the numbers, they say that they are
> more afraid of the vaccine even if the numbers are correct. They have a
> problem with mathematics, or perhaps they have a superstitious belief that
> despite the numbers they are personally at greater risk from the vaccine.
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> Ja.  My point is that we don’t know what the long-term risk model looks
> like.  It is speculative, and probably supported by theory as we know it,
> however… we who choose to take the vaccines are experimental pilots and
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> Consider how much of the theory has already been disproven.  When the
> vaccine became available, we were told it was one and done.  False, now it
> is generally acknowledged this isn’t even a vaccine in the traditional
> sense, it is immunotherapy.  There are known risk models associated with
> immunotherapy.  I am not a doctor, so I will leave it at that.  We were
> told that immunized people would be unlikely to catch, or if they did, they
> would be unlikely to die.  Well, that turned out to be only partially true
> as my family found out when my step-mother who was double immunized, caught
> and perished of covid a coupla months ago.
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> Many countries are compelling their citizens to take the vaccines, even
> the young, whose immune systems are robust and able to deal with covid, yet
> these same people have the most to lose in the long run if there are
> long-term unforeseen health consequences for injecting mRNA.  We don’t
> really know for sure if that will have long-term consequences, for we don’t
> have that data.  It probably won’t.  But the risk model is still unknown.
> To call out a number, particularly one as small as 1 in a million, reduces
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There is only one “vaccine”, the original smallpox vaccine, derived from
the cowpox virus. “Vacca” is Latin for cow. All subsequent “vaccines” are
strictly speaking immunisations.

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Stathis Papaioannou
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