[ExI] covid origin

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 18 16:52:40 UTC 2021


At this point, why do we care?  Labs all over, including ours, no doubt,
are making all kinds of things, likely much worse,  and accidents will
happen.  Lab people are human.  Does anyone think that China knowingly
released this virus?  Then it's an issue.  If not, then not.

Sometimes you people are like ESPN - endless, useless, speculation.  bill w

On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 2:07 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> This basically.  As much as I disagree with most of what Rafal says, that
> EXACT modification was proposed for a study AT THAT FACILITY IN WUHAN, and
> a year later the virus with that same modification appears a few miles from
> that facility? Come on, you'd have to be crazy not to question that. And we
> trust the CCP to give us the origin story?
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 7:26 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 2:57 PM Dave S via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 7:14 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In about February 2020 the theory was being floated that covid-19 was
>>>> an engineered virus created in a research lab in China.  I commented at the
>>>> time in this forum that it sounded like a plausible theory to me.  It was
>>>> at that time considered a disreputable theory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday the British parliament was told that a lab leak is the most
>>>> likely origin of covid.  This is an example of a theory which has grown
>>>> from ridicule to plausibility to general (even if not universal) acceptance
>>>> in a span of less than two years.  Theories usually take a human generation
>>>> to grow to acceptance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Engineered virus" and "leaked from a lab" are two entirely different
>>> things. It's still very unlikely that covid was man made. It's quite
>>> plausible that it was caught in the wild and was being studied at Wuhan and
>>> was accidentally released. See
>>> https://www.virology.ws/2021/09/09/gain-of-function-explained/ for more
>>> info.
>>>
>>>
>> ### Without doubt it was engineered. The furin cleavage site didn't
>> splice itself into the Wuhan virus genome, and the unusual arginine doublet
>> codons didn't show up by magic, they were put in as a part of a research
>> project.
>>
>> Rafal
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