[ExI] vaccine dark humor

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Mon Dec 27 16:09:53 UTC 2021


On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 at 01:37, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *…*> *On Behalf Of *Dave S via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] vaccine dark humor
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> On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 7:49 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> I will make a confident prediction: for years to come, we will be seeing
> people blaming the covid vaccine for any childhood maladies and the usual
> general weirdness of children born to mothers compelled to take this
> vaccine against their will.
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> >…Wow, who's doing forced vaccinations?
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> Many companies threatened to fire unvaccinated employees citing OSHA
> rules.  The court stopped OSHA, but plenty of employees took the vaccine to
> save their jobs in the meantime.  The military discharged some for
> refusing.  There were plenty of people who felt pressured and wouldn’t have
> taken the vaccine without the pressure from employers and schools.  That
> vaccine passport business is a huge error in judgement, considering that
> one isn’t required to present ID in order to get the vaccine, which creates
> a black market in the vaccine passport cards.
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> For a large segment of the population, the vaccine will be blamed for
> everything that goes wrong medically, especially that goes wrong with
> children born after the mother was pressured to take these vaccines.
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> >…Of course. So what? It's natural to blame something new for issues that
> arise around the same time. Sometimes it's coincidence, sometimes there's a
> cause/effect relationship…
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> This can lead to a general distrust of vaccines, including the ones we
> have had for a long time, which we know are relatively safe and necessary.
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> >…My wife got eye flashes in one eye last spring. Eye doctor said they'd
> probably go away in a couple of months, but they haven't. Recently she got
> them in the other eye. She realized that the first coincided with her
> second Moderna dose and the second with her booster. I googled and there is
> a possibility that the vaccine caused it:
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> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8358769/
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> -Dave
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> Owww dang sorry to hear it Dave.  May she recover fully and quickly.
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> If we pretend any new Rx is without risk we fool ourselves.  We might find
> out that babies born to vaccinated mothers are four times as likely to
> develop auto-immune diseases for instance, but by then we have ten years of
> children who are developing rare but serious conditions.  There really is
> more to it than risk of death.  At some age, it is more risky to take it
> than not, guessing about 20 or so, and older than that for women, younger
> than that for diabetics.
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> Stand by however, for what happens in Florida in the next coupla weeks may
> cause all of this to go away.  If it turns out that omicron is mild and
> confers natural immunity to the other variants, it might be our best bet to
> go ahead and catch the damn stuff, hang out with an omicron patient.  Hell
> that could spawn a new micro-industry: hire a pleasant young omicroner to
> hang out with you for an hour.  Nothing improper you understand, just visit
> and transmit, catch under controlled conditions, recover, go about your
> business.  An ailing species heals.
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Why do you think that the virus would be less likely to cause long term
side-effects than the vaccine?

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Stathis Papaioannou
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