[ExI] This is my last post to the Extropian List

Fri Feb 5 14:56:24 UTC 2021

Social media in general are wrestling with that question, particularly
FaceBook and Twitter.  When a mainstream medium decides it will filter
content or block a user, it becomes a de facto endorsement of every post it
allows to remain.

Look at some of the vile garbage Face Book and Twitter suddenly endorsed,
oh mercy: racism, sexism, genocide, the works.  If they are going to
moderate content, then they must do it across the board.  Otherwise, that
content is theirs to own.  spike

Let's take two examples: 1 - I will post an idea that what we need now is a
king - total authoritarian.  2 - I post some obscenities with no social
content.

I assume a moderator will censor the second one, but not the first - we are
libertarians but open to discussion of all ideas.  Spike is saying that the
group endorses the authoritarian one because it does moderate content and
is letting this one post.

That's just not right.  If some libertarian in our group starts demanding a
king for our country,that is not the same as endorsing the idea.   That is
just letting serious ideas get to us for discussion and probably shaming!
  bill w

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 8:45 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] This is my last post to the Extropian List
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> >…Thanks spike. I came back because I got sucked into the facebook
> nightmare and am trying to extricate myself from it…
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> Eh, it isn’t only FaceBook, Gordon.  It isn’t even just the social media
> in general.  In our day we are facing a very good question: how should a
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> Suppose we say that the usual social constraints, such as how one carries
> oneself at a party or public park, should be sufficient.  Then… what if
> they aren’t?  What if a person shows up on a forum such as Extropians and
> posts a lot of stuff that is insulting and drives away valuable
> contributors.  Then suppose that forum has a moderator who allows
> everything, but that moderator clearly sees that this policy is damaging
> that forum severely and tries to get the offender to stop, but the offender
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> Social media in general are wrestling with that question, particularly
> FaceBook and Twitter.  When a mainstream medium decides it will filter
> content or block a user, it becomes a de facto endorsement of every post it
> allows to remain.
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> Look at some of the vile garbage Face Book and Twitter suddenly endorsed,
> oh mercy: racism, sexism, genocide, the works.  If they are going to
> moderate content, then they must do it across the board.  Otherwise, that
> content is theirs to own.
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> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:12 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] This is my last post to the Extropian List
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> >…. I am surprised, but not too surprised, to see all the old familiar
> names here. You used to give me major grief for my heretical (by extropian
> standards) views on Strong AI and digital uploading of consciousness. You
> are actually one of the reasons I stopped participating here. Even so, I
> hate to see you go!
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> -gts
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> Gts we are glad to see you back.
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