[ExI] covid can be prevented

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Fri Feb 5 20:11:24 UTC 2021


A friend of mine in Israel reports there is one section - a conservative
subset of the Arab population - that is strongly anti-mask,
anti-distancing, and so on.  They keep doing things known to spread
disease, they have enough clout that they can't be singled out for it
legislatively, thus their behavior results in everyone getting mask
mandates...which that subset then flouts.  This is as annoying and
unproductive as it sounds.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 12:05 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> How does Israel stand re distancing and mask wearing?  Maybe they assume
> that if they get the vaccine they aren't contagious anymore, whereas they
> could have it and be symptom free.  I read the other day where someone said
> that the spread is mostly coming from people who have it but have no
> symptoms.   bill w
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> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 1:41 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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>> *…*> *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
>> *Subject:* [ExI] covid can be prevented
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>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/sports/football/seahawks-coronavirus-nfl.html
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>> Billw, I am looking at Israel’s covid new case rate, which stopped
>> declining about 5 days ago and is heading back up, as the rest of the world
>> declines steeply.  The rest of the world new case rate is about 2/3 what is
>> was 4 weeks ago.  But Israel is over 80% of it’s post-…Hannukah(?) peak and
>> rising, as it leads the world by a huge margin in number of vaccines
>> distributed: 62 vaccines per 100 population, vs second place UK at about 16
>> and third place USA at 11.
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>> So… Israel is waaaay ahead in vaccines, but the USA is at about half its
>> peak new case rate (4 wks ago) and UK is at about a third its peak new case
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>> I am compelled to suspect the vaccines Israel is using are not working.
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>> I can think of a number of explanations, such as:
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>>    - some kind of really bad testing anomaly (unlikely),
>>    - intentional misinformation (unlikely),
>>    - genetic resistance to the therapy (unlikely),
>>    - an intentionally infected batch of vaccine (unlikely),
>>    - improper administration of vaccine (unlikely),
>>    - systematic failure to vaccinate the most vulnerable (vaguely
>>    plausible)
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>> or perhaps…
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>> Israel is being sold counterfeit vaccines.
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>> Your thoughts please.
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