[ExI] This is my last post to the Extropian List

[William Flynn Wallace]

IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) in this manner, but it is far from
flawless, for that process tends to identify third party people as
universal foes.  That doesn’t seem right to me either.  spike  (let me
respond later to your other concerns)


I think of it this way:  fear flattens the curve, making outliers nearer
the average (stimulus generalization).  At the extreme, everyone is seen as
an enemy, and not just potentially.  Combine this with schizophrenia and
you get the guy in the Texas tower (also could have been his temporal lobe
tumor, discovered on autopsy).    In lab animals it is nearly impossible to
get rid of a fear-based learned response.  The rat, for example, may jump
hundreds or thousands of times to, he thinks, avoid the shock, when in fact
the shock has been turned off.  You can hold him there and prevent the
response, but then he goes into shock - shock shock you would call it!
 bill w



On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:49 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *Cc:* William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] This is my last post to the Extropian List
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> >…Hey Spike - it works like this:  suppose you are very right wing. That
> means that fear is your main motivator in the political realm …  To
> attack this point of view is just to make it stronger.  I see no reason why
> this might not hold true even if a person is left wing.  Elicit enough fear
> and this is the way it works.  bill w
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> Ja.  There is a level of subtlety at play in our times which I think is
> important.  We have heard the term “dog whistle” words and terms.  In our
> polarized times in the US, we are well aware of the existence of these
> terms and even patterns of thought.  We do IFF (Identification Friend or
> Foe) in this manner, but it is far from flawless, for that process tends to
> identify third party people as universal foes.  That doesn’t seem right to
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> We Libertarians have those too: we talk about details of the constitution
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> Here’s another one for you.  Assume someone brings up the topic of guns.
> Any actual knowledge of how a gun works, any actual technical knowledge of
> the topic in our world is nearly universally interpreted as indicating
> right wing sympathy.  Anyone who has a lot of technical knowledge on the
> topic is highly suspect, regardless of that person’s actual political
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> One step further please.  Suppose one recognizes that the speaker is using
> a lot of specialized terminology and responds not at all, even if one
> thinks one knows what is meant.  Silence is interpreted as disagreement.
> Non-response is a negative response.  This is most disturbing, for if
> silence is violence, it cannot be allowed.  Orwell was right again.
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