[ExI] 30 Solutions to the Fermi Paradox

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Sat Mar 20 17:20:19 UTC 2021


My take: most likely, humans are the first technological species in our
galaxy.  Someone has to be the first (if there are any).

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 9:05 AM John Grigg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> My belief is that the Earth is known to the advanced alien races out
> there, and that we are essentially a designated nature preserve until we
> have the maturity and technology to be seen as a worthy spacefaring race. I
> suspect they have a Star Trek style Prime Directive in place that has
> protected us so far. But if we continue to misbehave, that at a certain
> point, we may get a visit from their version of Klaatu and Gort.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:38 PM BillK via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 02:00, spike jones via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Entirely possible Mike.  But we are doing constant frequency scanning,
>> so we can detect all the AM and FM signals still zinging around, as well as
>> all the other frequencies.  We can tell if a signal is there.  This is what
>> SETI-AtHome does: sifts thru enormous piles of data looking for a carrier
>> frequency.
>> >
>> > I think you are right however: there is some form of radio
>> communications that we don’t know about yet, which I think is highly
>> directional collimated EM.  If we are not in the line of sight, we don’t
>> get the signal.
>> >
>> > spike
>> > _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> The problem again is the overwhelming size of the universe. Even to
>> the nearest stars, communication at the speed of light is years out of
>> date, for further away stars it is hundreds or thousands of years out
>> of date. So not much point really.
>>
>> For this universe we need to magic in instantaneous travel and
>> communication, but rumour has it that if this was possible it might
>> lead to a few problems.........
>>
>>
>> BillK
>>
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