[ExI] totalitarian techniques

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 13 15:58:18 UTC 2021

Satchel Paige:  "Don't look behind you.  Some one may be catching up to you"

I don't think China is there yet, but it's gaining fast.

spike tells me that he lives in a mostly ASian community and the Chinese
people hate communism.  The Hong Kong protests are just the first sign that
totalitarianism the Communist way is doomed in the long run.

Agree on the group/individual idea.  That's all over Asia, not just China.

Alfred E Neuman - 'What?  Me worry"?  I don't believe in worry. I believe
in concern.  We are still the hardest working people in the world last time
I saw the figures.  I have no idea how government can support the economy,
but that's the most important thing.  Not building more military strength.
 bill w

On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:22 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 13/11/2021 01:55, bill w wrote:
> I would be glad to hear which of my ideas is outdated.
> The idea that China somehow needs to catch up with the west, or anyone
> else. See:
> https://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-china-economy.php
> As far as ideology is concerned, I'm certain that the communist chinese
> think that everyone else needs to catch up with them!
> Even the idea that they can't innovate or do original scientific research,
> and have to steal other people's ideas is outdated:
> https://hbr.org/2021/05/chinas-new-innovation-advantage
> https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/02/these-charts-show-how-china-is-becoming-an-innovation-superpower/
> China will become more like us very soon:  they will stop making
> everything for Amazon because they will no longer have all that cheap
> labor.  I am increasingly seeing 'made in Bangladesh' and 'made in
> Vietnam'.  That trend will get bigger and bigger as the average Chinese
> gets more and more middle class.  bill w
> I do hope you're right. I doubt it, though. Even if average citizens get
> wealthier, automation will easily replace human labour, and the chinese
> government certainly won't have any qualms about that.
> Communist China is very different in outlook to western democracies. The
> whole 'group is more important than individual' mindset has been very
> successful there, even though it seems to go against human nature.
> Certainly the masses seem to agree with it, or at least acquiesce to it.
> The leaders probably see it as a useful tool for wielding power.
> I think that this rapid buildup of economic and technological power,
> combined with their totalitarian ideology, should be making us very worried
> indeed.
> Ben
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