[ExI] Covid Vaccines

[William Flynn Wallace]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/sweden-halts-moderna-s-covid-vaccine-for-people-aged-30-or-under
 bill w

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 12:26 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Covid Vaccines
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> >>>… Which is apparently also a risk in humans also.
> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html...
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> >>… That seems like the sort of thing that would have been good to know
> before they had hundreds of thousands of nurses of wildly varying skill
> levels administer it to a billion people… Darin
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> >…Yes, that would be nice, wouldn't it, but we don't live in a sane world
> right now.   I would seriously doubt most of the people administering
> vaccinations are aspirating first to ensure they haven't hit a blood
> vessel… Also would have been nice not to brutally suppress online
> discussion of these issues too…Darin
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> The last sentence of the Darin quote above really has my wheels spinning.
> There is good evidence that online discussion of the risks of the vaccine
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> Now this report will explain why it is that people who have gotten
> vaccinations for many years with never any ill effects may run as high a
> risk as anyone else, for we hadn’t thought of that mechanism.  We had
> reliable reports of healthy young people developing myocarditis after
> getting the vax, but the internet didn’t like those cases being discussed.
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> Now it comes down to how long we believe the vaccination confers
> protection.  I was led to believe it was 2 to 5 years.  But later reports
> suggest we still don’t know that.  Israel was a heavy early vaccinator  It
> changes the risk/benefit ratio of the conferred immunity is significantly
> shorter than we thought.  This Israeli data might suggest the immunity from
> the vaccine might be short-lived, which really does impact the risk/benefit
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