[ExI] Covid Vaccines

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 08:59, Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> The risk is significantly less low. We have no idea just how much less low
> it is, but we do know this with absolute certainty: there is not a single
> figure in the media, government, or academia who will not lie their face
> off about the actual risk rate, and sleep well that night.
>

What are they lying about and why are they lying?

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 3:43 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> *From:* spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
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>> >…Now it comes down to how long we believe the vaccination confers
>> protection.  I was led to believe it was 2 to 5 years.  But later reports
>> suggest we still don’t know that.  Israel was a heavy early vaccinator  It
>> changes the risk/benefit ratio of the conferred immunity is significantly
>> shorter than we thought.  This Israeli data might suggest the immunity from
>> the vaccine might be short-lived, which really does impact the risk/benefit
>> ratio:
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>> My apologies for grinding this subject into absurdity, but eh… that’s
>> what I do best.
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>> The Israeli data seems to suggest that the immunity from the vaccine
>> doesn’t last long or the virus easily mutates around it, so the Israelis
>> caught a related corona virus.
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>> I had assumed immunity for about 2 to 5 years, but if we learn that the
>> immunity lasts only 2 to 5 months, that would explain the Israeli
>> experience.  If we learn that the vaccine really protects for only 2 to 5
>> weeks, then it changes the dynamic entirely.
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>> We now suspect that if a medic’s error puts the vaccine into a vein,
>> there is resulting heart damage.  The risk is low of course.  But if we
>> find out it works for only 2 to 5 weeks, it is not at all clear that the
>> vaccine is safer than not-vaccine.
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>> Thoughts please?
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>> spike
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