[ExI] question not being asked in Alec Baldwin shooting

[William Flynn Wallace]

Just tickling the back of my mind:  I read where having a record of having
been in a mental facility is worse than having a criminal history.  Try
getting a job, for instance.  Who would you be more likely to hire
(assuming both probabilities are non zero):  a criminal or one with a
mental illness?  No problem at all for me:  the mentally ill guy, assuming
he left with a diagnosis of 'in remission'.  Still, though not all that
safe:  the most likely reason for a return to the mental hospital is not
taking the pills.

It's a bad idea.  Reliability of diagnosis for severe mental disorders is
poor.  I sat in a group that was making diagnoses for the latest patients
to be admitted.  For one man the diagnosis ranged from psychotic to
normal!  I admit that that had to be a very rare event.  bill w

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:16 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 24, 2021 3:48 PM
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> *Cc:* William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] question not being asked in Alec Baldwin shooting
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> >…Spike, just where did you get the idea that in some places being
> mentally ill is illegal?  It makes no sense at all.   bill w
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> In California there is a drive to make it illegal for mentally ill people
> to own a gun.  If so, that equates being mentally ill with being convicted
> of a crime, for we do not allow criminals to own a gun.
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> If being judged (by some means) to be mentally ill results in loss of gun
> rights, it should also cause the mentally ill to lose voting rights, as
> felons may not vote from prison.  If one can finish a prison term but
> cannot finish a mental illness term, then it appears to me as though a
> mental illness diagnosis should result in loss of gun rights and voting
> rights forever.
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> This becomes a political hot potato when we note that in California, one
> can lose gun rights if one is addicted to some drugs, even if the addicted
> person has not committed an actual crime (other than the drug use (which
> isn’t necessarily illegal in itself (drinking bottles of over-the-counter
> cough syrup for instance.)))
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> OK then.  What if we decide that anyone who loses gun rights for any
> reason also loses voting rights?  Are we ready to go there?
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