[ExI] addiction

[Will Steinberg]

What an overly simplified view of the brain, as if parts of the brain don't
send signals to other parts.

Why is it so hard to admit you are wrong?  You are wrong.  The science is
the opposite of what you say.  You are not a neuroscientist, are you?  An
addiction researcher?  Is there any reason your intuition and personal
single anecdote would possibly be something I would consider true over
literal thousands of pieces of vetted scientific research?

Blows my mind.  Not sure how you are usually into science but not for this
one thing.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 4:12 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Adrian, to get a bit technical about your idea, the problem is one of
> inhibition.  The lateral hypothalamus starts the eating process and the
> ventral stops it.  I very much doubt if overeating is brain damage to the
> ventral hypothalamus though this is possible (very unlikely, as deep as it
> is in the brain and as common as over eating is - I think the inhibition is
> just overridden).  In fact you could look at all addictions as problems of
> lacking inhibition.  Or overriding it.  Bill w
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 12:01 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 9:54 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I am still waiting for those voluntary behaviors you say are lost.  bill
>>> w
>>>
>>
>> Depends on the addiction.  In the case of overeating, "not eating" is a
>> behavior that you might call voluntary but is no longer an option when
>> hungry.
>>
>> Note that "eating" is far more complex than simply "move hand bearing
>> food to mouth".  It also involves obtaining food, possibly cooking food,
>> and so on.  So, trying to think of it as a simplistic single action that is
>> performed without conscious intent, will confuse and mislead you because it
>> isn't that.
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